225 Amy Schuber: Finding Your Voice

Amy Schuber is celebrating her 4th year as a podcaster with a half-million downloads now for Inspired Conversations. We talk about what led her as a strategic business coach to jump into podcasting, how its helped her find her voice and grow her business, and why she believes ‘you are the one you’ve been waiting for’.

Melinda Wittstock:         Amy, welcome to Wings.

Amy Schuber:                    Oh, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here with you.

Melinda Wittstock:         Well, me too, and congratulations first off … I mean, you've been doing Inspired Conversations, a wonderful podcast, for four years now. That's amazing.

Amy Schuber:                    Thank you. I can't believe it's been four years. It's really kind of gone by fast, and I can't believe I've had the chops to continue it for as long as I have, which has been awesome.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right. But you know, and to do so well though, too, you have, god knows, a gazillion downloads. How many downloads, now?

Amy Schuber:                    I mean, I've crossed the half a million mark, which sounds so crazy to me, that I've crossed that number. So it's been a lot of downloads, because for me I'm like, “I don't know that many people.” So it always sort of makes me laugh and smile because, you know, numbers are numbers but for me it's a big number because I would've never thought I could say it's been that many downloads.

So it's fun. It's really fun.

Melinda Wittstock:         Well, what made you launch a podcast to begin with? Because you’re  a coach, or business coach. You know, there's so many things you've done in your life. What was that moment where you said, “Oh, man. I just have to start a podcast, right now.”

Amy Schuber:                    Well, you know what's funny? I started it because I was in a coaching relationship, and my coach said, “You should do a telesummit.” And I was like, “Really?” And he was like, “Yeah, you know, build your platform. Have these conversations.” And my whole thing is that I love to have conversations about other things besides business because we are multi-layered and we're not just one dimensional in our business.

Sometimes we need to learn how to take a vacation, or take it easy, or maybe we need better health, and that feeds us in our business. So I had started a telesummit called Inspired Conversations and I did a whole bunch of interviews and afterwards it was over, and I thought, “Okay, now what? That was really fun. I loved being in those conversations. Now what do I do with that?”

Because they just sort of … like, it goes away, right? All of those interviews go away, and so one of my friends said, “You should start a podcast.” And five years ago, I didn't know what a podcast was. I truly didn't know. I was like, “What does that mean?” And so I did the research and all of a sudden all these opportunities started coming to me for starting a podcast. It was very synchronistic, so I thought, “Okay, I need to start a podcast.”

So, I started a podcast, and I just called it the same thing, Inspired Conversations, and my intention was to create a platform for my voice, and create a platform to have these conversations where people could hear things from other people that could help support them in their lives and business, whether it's health and wellbeing or maybe a business strategy, or maybe something spiritual that could help realign them.

These conversations would help people become better people, right? Better to themselves, and my intention was that they would learn, create, and thrive. So, learn something new, create something with what they learned, and then thrive in their lives or business. So both. And so that's why I started, but it was interesting, because there was so much synchronicity I couldn't deny starting. Even for me, like, I was on a webinar and it was about podcasting and I thought, “Oh, this is cool. I think I could probably do this. I know enough people that could start me.”

And I knew I wanted to do interviews, because I'm a curious person, and I wanted to be in the conversation, because I'm learning, and I wanted to learn things, and so I was on this webinar and it was funny because if you signed up for whatever it was, you could win the free microphone. And I thought, “Oh, I'm going to sign up, and if I win the microphone, I'll start a podcast.”

And I won the microphone, and it was on my doorstep the very next day. You know? Thanks to Prime, it was like the next day it was there, and I opened the microphone and I'm like, “Okay, I guess we're doing this.” And that's really … I just took that leap, and followed those intuitive hints and started and here we are, four years later.

And it's been such a wild journey of personal development that I wasn't expecting for myself. So it's been really cool.

Melinda Wittstock:         Isn't that interesting? I think you mentioned the word synchronicities. Right? When you get into alignment, when you're doing something you're meant to do, all kinds of amazing things happen. I've found that with Wings, that, you know, our … I know your intake calendar for how you book guests is automated, you never really know entirely who you're going to be interviewing, say, on a given day. What's been really fascinating for me is whatever challenge I'm working on in my business, I mean not always, but often, the woman that I happen to be speaking to that day is absolutely on point for me.

And then she'll say something like, “Wow, I really needed this conversation because you were on point for me.” And that's been amazing. It's been like having a private mastermind. Kind of like-

Amy Schuber:                    Exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:         … every day.

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         It feels so good too to be helping other people, right?

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah, yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         Do people get in touch with you and say, “Wow, I heard that conversation and it changed my life?”

Amy Schuber:                    Yes. I've had that same, exact, experience which has been the most surprising thing to me. I've had guest booked six months out on my show because their of schedules or what not. On that day, I'm going through something, they show up with the right message and I'm like how is that possible? I had no idea this was going to be going on this day, you know? It serves me. I usually finish the recording and I'm like, “Okay, that was just for me, I don't need to publish that, that was just for me.” However, at the same time, I'm like if I'm going through this and needed that message, I know other people need it. So to me it's just really wonderful universal confirmation.

It's funny, I love hearing that, that's happened to you as well. It happens over and over and over. Also, I get the feedback like, “Wow, thank you for having that conversation.” Or, “thank you for asking that question of that person, it's really helped me go through some things.”

It's really interesting because it also makes me realize we're not alone and we think we might be going through something, whether it's learning about a business strategy or something completely different like a spiritual conversation because I do have a lot of those. That we're not the only ones. That's what it reminds me of every single time. There's this other thing that's happening for me in this conversation is I can have a whole bunch of interviews scheduled in one day and we can be talking about all different subjects, spirituality, wellness and maybe like a business conversation I'm having. At the end of that day there's the same theme. Everyone is talking about finding your voice in it or being true to yourself. It's so interesting to me because what I've realized is, over these years, and being in and then witnessing these conversations, there's this collective consciousness conversation going on. It's sort of shifting in changing over the years but I'm really aware of it.

Right now, it happens to be when I'm witnessing and hearing is reconnect with yourself and be true to your voice. We see that out in the world, right? There's this whole thing going on about our voices and be true to ourselves but it's so interesting how I can hear it in these different conversations. It's also the stuff that I work on too.

It's my business and it's how I help people get in alignment with their business and being true to ourselves. So, it's really interesting, especially after these four years, to sort of look back and see what's gone on. How I've participated, how it's impacted me and then, how I can compare it to what I'm seeing out in the world and in business. It's been really interesting. That was really unexpected for me.

I mean, it's been a wonderful personal development growth class just for me. Then, I'm lucky because I get to share it with people because it's a podcast but I wasn't expecting that at all when I was doing this. I thought, “Oh, I'm going to have this platform to share my voice and to share other people. People are going to get inspired by it. Woo!” You know? But it's so much deeper than that.

I don't normally talk about that because I'm in the conversations on my show but it's been really such a cool thing to witness and see how it unfolds and how it impacts others including myself. I'm part of it as well.

Melinda Wittstock:         Oh, gosh, yes. So many business owners approach me now that Wings has been going, I guess less than a year, but they ask me all kinds of questions like, “What has podcasting done for your business?” “What kind of benefit are getting from it?” “What's it like to do all the work associated with it?” In other words, should I do it? Right?

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         It's interesting, I mean one of things that I find myself telling them which is very similar to what you've just said but it really is about finding your own voice. In a podcast, that's kind of what you're doing.

Amy Schuber:                    Yes.

Melinda Wittstock:         I mean, you have a point-of-view, you have something that you really are meant to share with the world and I don't know just going through the exercise of this and really kind of understanding what your message is, what your mission is, why you're here in this earth suit, you know?

Amy Schuber:                    Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Melinda Wittstock:         What you're meant to do and whom you're meant to inspire? Is really game changing. I found that has really led to all sorts of new business opportunities that I didn't see before I started the podcast. It's lead to, like you say, so many really interesting connections with people. It gives you this platform, you can ask any question to any person at any time-

Amy Schuber:                    Right.

Melinda Wittstock:         … for any reason. You know, right?

Amy Schuber:                    Right.

Melinda Wittstock:         There's kind of like, “Oh, my God, can I call that person?” Yes, I can call that person, I'm going to go call them and invite them on my podcast.

Amy Schuber:                    Right.

Melinda Wittstock:         Then, I can ask them a whole bunch of questions.

Amy Schuber:                    Right. You know what? I wasn't realizing the credibility you get by saying you're a podcaster. So I attended a lot of events through the years as an entrepreneur I'm always learning new things and going to different business events or personal development events. Once is started podcasting, I'd hear a speaker on stage and I would maybe look at my friend and be like, “I'm going to go talk to them and invite them on my podcast.” Prior to that, I we'd probably never approach the person who was speaking on stage, even just to, I would never even walk up to them and say, “Oh, my gosh, that was amazing. I'd love to talk to you further.” I wouldn't have done that.

Then I became a podcaster and it gave me this license to ask, like you just said, “Hey, I'd love to have you on my podcast.” So what that did for me, or has done for me, is created this opportunity to create a rapport and a relationship with someone that I would have never done before. I've become friends with some of the people that I've interviewed. I just have this relationship and supportive business rapport with them that I would have never taken to that next level because at the time, they were on stage and I was in the audience, right?

I'm like, “I'm an attendee and this is where my place is,” but it sort of helped me pass that barrier and then I'd become this equal. It was a funny thing. I've witnessed myself do it and now just have that, you know, the audacity, I don't know to go ask people, call people, email people. A lot of people have said, “How have you gotten those guests?” And, “How do you know that person?” I always say, “I just asked.” I don't know why it gave me that permission but you don't need a podcast to have the permission to ask someone to speak further about whatever they're talking about if you're curious.

You can have that permission because you're curious. I never gave myself that permission before which I think is so funny. Then, the same happens to us, right? We are asked to be speaking on someone else's stage because we're a podcaster or we've done this thing or that thing. We let people know that we're the authority and do that thing. I'm some way I have this authority in podcasting because I've done it for four years and I've had this experience and all these different things have gone on.

It's really kind of interesting. I always say to people, “If you want to do it, do it.” “If you feel pulled and called and you have something to share, do it because it's going to teach you something that you didn't know you wanted or needed to learn and it's not what you think.”

Melinda Wittstock:         How has podcasting worked for you from a business stand point? You know at New Media Summit, where we were both Icons of Influence, you know we spent a bit of time talking about how to monetize your podcast, right? Is it like, does it lead to new business for your business? Do you do a sponsorship? I mean, what are some of the business models and the reasons to do a podcast beyond just growing your personal brand. Which as business owners we all need to do and it's a great way to do that. What are some of the ways that you've looked at making money from a podcast?

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah, that's such a good question. This is what's interesting, my podcast … originally, I started thinking, “Oh, I'm going to have all these funnels and I'm going to have all these ways to build my business in it.” I didn't. In the first few years, I didn't do any of that because it was like I was so in it and I think I was exploring my voice and exploring the personal development side of it, you know? Then, there's this whole numbers game, right? Oh, in order to have sponsors, you need to have a certain amount of downloads in a certain amount. So you have to kind of play by the rules until you don't, right?

Then, I would hear some people doing other models that you don't need that and you can create whatever you want for sponsorships so there's that. What's interesting is my intention is now because I haven't been monetizing it, up until now, and I don't. I mean, nobody really asked me about this but this is the truth, I haven't monetized it up until now because I think, for me, it was being a teacher for me and my personal development and my voice. Also, the worthiness of, oh, really? These podcasts and even though I've had all these downloads, these are worth it? Oh, okay.

I actually wasn't seeking out the sponsorship for my show because I think I felt scared or was it worthy, that kind of thing. That kind of went on for me. This year has been the first year that I'm exploring that and moving into, okay, this thing needs to be monetized because it's got chops and it's run it's run and it's validated, right?

I think I also needed to step into that as well. For me, what's it done is built rapport with clients. Clients have trickled in from it because they've reached out to me. That's been really interesting and that's been really great. It also, for me, built an opportunity to be sought out to speak on different platforms. That's one of my ways of building my business, as well, being a featured speaker.

In that way, it's helped me with my own platform and exposure but monetarily? No, I'm not making money from it because that's not something I was exploring, even though I was aware of it. I was a little overwhelmed and intimidated by it I think, if I'm being really honest on why if I look back. Like, Amy, for four years? Wow, why?

I think it was intimidated to me because I was comparing myself to some of these other people that were doing so well and they're making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month because they're doing all these things. For me, it wasn't scalable to do that and create it in that way.

Online courses off of this, that and the other and then certain things. So, for me, I recognize, okay, you can't compare yourself to what other people are doing and it's okay. Right now I recognize, at the four year mark, I'm like and it was exactly what it needed to be for you, for you to grow and your business will now grow because of it. Now you're strategic about it wasn't being so strategic about the business growth part of it or the monetization part.

Now, as I'm in this mastermind with these icons and hearing with people are doing, I can feel the difference where I'm like, “Yes, I'm ready to do that and I'm ready to that.”

Could I have done it differently? Absolutely, but up until now it hasn't been that for me.

Melinda Wittstock:         I think it's interesting though that as women we tend to wait to make sure that we have kind of validation, right?

Amy Schuber:                    Right.

Melinda Wittstock:         We're waiting somehow to be anointed. Yes, Amy, you now qualify.

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah, to make some money.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         It's so funny how we do that and guys, honestly, are just less likely do to that. They just go straight for that.

Amy Schuber:                    Right.

Melinda Wittstock:         Sometimes it's so hard to know our own value and what we're doing. So I just think of literally all the inspired conversations you've had with people over the last four years, how much value provided to all of those people? We get into so how can that be measured in just a fair exchange of value?

As women, we need to get better at just thinking about that. Like, “Wait a minute, here, I'm doing really good for a lot of people. I should receive something in return that.”

Amy Schuber:                    Exactly. You know what? Sometimes it is when us see that moment you were there, we're in this mastermind and some of the guys were like, “One year at it and I'm making this much money at my podcast.” I'm thinking, “What?” Maybe I'm the example of there is value, don't wait for it, you know? We, like you said, as women, tend to wait and we hem and haw. I've fed right into that, right? It's like no more.

So it's funny because when I saw the men sort of going at it differently we are wired differently but there's not reason we can't go after it the way they go after it too. Like you said.

Melinda Wittstock:         Oh, gosh, this is so true. Let's go back to when you were much younger, I want to get into your journey a little bit. What made you entrepreneurial? What made you become a business coach? What were some of those early influences that led you on your journey to where you are now?

Amy Schuber:                    It's such a funny answer to this question because it's not what you would think. I come from very entrepreneurial family. My dad, my mom, they're artists, their creators. My dad is an entrepreneur. My grandfather was an entrepreneur, jewelers so very artistic. I grew up in an entrepreneurial family. However, I was always told to get a job. I was one of the first ones in my family to away to college. So I'm this rule follower, good girl, kind of kid and so I got into college, I went away to college.

When I graduated from college it was like get a job. I'm like great. So I did. I moved to San Francisco, I'm from Southern California. I went away to college and then I moved to San Francisco out of school and I got a job in corporate America.

I didn't realize what an entrepreneurial spirit I was and how creative I was because I think I was always comparing myself to everybody else in my family who was super beyond creative geniuses. I'm like, well, I'm not like that so I must be fitting over here. So I'm going to do this whole school route and follow the rules route. Until it didn't work for me anymore.

I worked in corporate America, I bopped around in San Francisco at a couple different amazing companies. My last job I was a Marketing Director in an agency in San Francisco and had amazing clients. I had an amazing résumé, Microsoft, Intel, HP, but I was working on tech projects that were so uninspiring to me. It was mind numbing about me learning what their technology was so we could put it out in the world in this marketing way. I was miserable.

Finally, I came home one time to visit it was my niece's birthday, I was crying and miserable and my dad just looked at me he's like, “Just quit, what's the problem?” I was like, “Oh, yeah, okay. Really?” He just sort of shook me out of my drama. I thought, “Oh, really? That's an option, I can quit and then go explore?”

It was interesting at that particular time, I started seeking out and I took a career class, I hired a life coach, an astrologer, life coach and she coached me through a bunch of stuff. I took this career class to sort of explore my options because I didn't really know what else to do. I wasn't brave enough to just quit but then I did. I was brave enough and I quit. I quit my job.

San Francisco had changed a bit for me because my friends were getting married and moving out of the city so, basically, I was living in the city and my friends had left. I was kind of like, “All I've got is this job and I sort of hate it. This what not what I though my life was going to be about.” So, I did, I finally took the opportunity, I quit. I started exploring and I started doing some creative things. I had enough money saved up that I could live for a little while without having a job and so I did that. I took some interior design classes, so I was exploring my creative self that I hadn't allowed myself to explore before then. In that time I also had an idea for a business.

I went to this entrepreneur group in Los Angeles and that knocked the door down for me. The synchronicity started happening, the woman running the group said, “Would you like to run this group in Orange County?” That's where I was living and I said, “Yeah, what does that mean?”

Because when I'm a yes, I'm a whole-hearted yes and then I need to find out details later. I was like, “Sure, what does that mean, yes.” Me saying yes to that, running that women's group in Orange County, opened up the door to coaching. That's when I was holding space for women entrepreneurs.

They were coming in and doing this … I was facilitating the four week workshop. I was running it in Orange County so I was having monthly meetings and I was creating exactly those things I was talking about, community and safe space. We were exploring our ideas and I was witnessing women time after time, I put their ideas in this group.

Some people had established businesses, some people had an idea, everyone was in a different space but we all supported one another in it. It was so interesting because I would see their doubt come up and I was like, “What is wrong with us that we have so much doubt around these genius ideas, you know that could be life changing, we're holding back.”

It was really interesting and I did that for a few years but that is where I found, “Oh, I'm good at this.” My business strategy from my previous jobs and I think I have a natural sense of business strategy. Then I'm also this creative person as well so I could see all these different things.

I could connect people with what they needed to be connected with, all of my skills and my genius started coming through in facilitating those workshops. I was interviewing people for the monthly meetings, so those skills started coming through which leads to podcasting, all these years later.

It was kind of interesting so I went about it in a funny way, I was doing what I was told to do from people who are super creative entrepreneurs and at one point I was like, “Well dad, why do you think I should go get a job when you've always worked for yourself, you worked for your dad and you started your own business?”

He was like, “Yeah, I don't know.” I was like, “What?” I wasn't nurtured to be an entrepreneur but sooner or later it came out of me because I could no longer survive in a cubicle, in a company, in a big building downtown San Francisco.

I was losing my mind, I had the Monday blues every Sunday night. I was like what could I do to not go to work tomorrow because it was that bad for me. I would call in sick, I would use all my vacation days. If I had a three day weekend, I'd make it a four day weekend. I would do anything not to be miserable at work.

As soon as I had that permission, I don't know if my dad gave it to me because he said just quit but it opened something in me to start looking deeper in myself and then following that to go do the work that I'm doing. That led me to doing what I'm doing now.

Melinda Wittstock:         The fascinating thing about taking that entrepreneurial leap, it's kind of terrifying to begin with right where you're just … Because you're jumping into an unknown.

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         It's amazing though that when you do that it's kind of like you fall backwards and the universe catches you. In taking the leap you land, everybody does but there is definitely a trust factor. I had an amazing woman on my podcast not so long ago, Allison Maslan, who has just put out a wonderful book, called, Scale or Fail.

She is a trapeze artist as well as being a 10X serial entrepreneur and she actually has a trapeze in her back garden.

Amy Schuber:                    Wow.

Melinda Wittstock:         Nothing like a whole trapeze, she's got a big house, she's been very successful but there's this moment where she's comparing entrepreneurship to that trapeze where you have to let go of the bar that you're holding onto, to grab the next one.

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah, to move.

Melinda Wittstock:         It's timing and if you hesitate you can mess up so you've got to really go all in and what a great metaphor really for entrepreneurship. I love it though that so many people, sometimes it has to get so bad, like you have to hate your job, like you're describing, so much. It's going to be so bad …

Amy Schuber:                    Right, I mean you know you hear that, are you pulled by your vision or are you pushed by pain. I'm clearly pushed by pain sometimes.

Melinda Wittstock:         That's sometimes where we grow, I think in my entrepreneurial journey if I'm really brutally honest I think okay of all of the successes I've had, did I learn from those. Or did I really learn really more from the failures or the mess ups or things that were not necessarily failures at my own hand, it was just like bad timing or just different things.

Usually along that journey it's increasingly apparent to me that it's really just a personal growth journey and entrepreneurship is the thing that's going to make you face your crap much faster.

Amy Schuber:                    Oh, my gosh, everything.

Melinda Wittstock:         It all comes up, yeah it all comes up to confront you and so you do invariably end up on this personal growth journey. It's so interesting, everybody that's successful with this will tell you that.

Amy Schuber:                    It's so true, it's so true, I mean I've heard it so many times and I've even said it where that you start a business it will be your biggest personal development class you've ever taken. Because like you said your …

Melinda Wittstock:         Therapy.

Amy Schuber:                    Yeah and then the stuff you didn't realize was there, oh, like what, oh my gosh I'm facing this, I didn't know this was a thing for me. Like you said it is in those moments that we learn the most and it's true, it's really true.

Melinda Wittstock:         Women do have, what I find really paradoxical is that so many of the things that are our greatest strengths we don't double down on necessarily. Like women are so relationship focused and yet we tend to self-isolate. Women are very intuitive but somewhere along the line we bought into some notion that that's weak, we need to be more analytical or whatever.

All these different things and of course the answer is somewhere in between but I just think that we have so many really natural kind of feminine power sort of traits right now that is the right time in our world to be expressing these things. I just feel really excited and bullish about women taking entrepreneurial leaps right now.

So long as they're really aligned like they're doing something that's in alignment with their passion, their purpose, kind of their talents like what they are good at. Really have the coaches and the resources and the master minds and all that stuff around them so they can succeed.

Now it feels like a really good time, how do you feel about that whole kind of masculine, feminine divide of a lot of women feel the pressure to act kind of like a dude in business?

Amy Schuber:                    Oh, my gosh I think it's been our downfall, right? Because it's like I think I was raised in that era of sort of put on the pants and act like a guy to get crap done, right. Or to bully your way up and then you become … You get called names because you're that one getting fierce about things.

I mean I've been called names and it's been interesting because it's like really, and it's not so black and white and then it's like I'm not even being who I want to be being by being this bully person. Taking on this just to get up in the world and that was happening to me in corporate a lot.

I'm like a calm demeanor person so when I would get activated and raise my voice people would be surprised but it was like this can no longer be like this, right. Then you'd get called names because of it, but it's like we have to rise somehow. We've also got to … The pendulum to me is swinging right now and we're finding that really beautiful space in the middle.

We don't want to be too, too feminine and even though there's power there and we don't want to be too, too masculine because we know that that's a mis-balance. Both of them are and we've got to just find that middle. I believe that's what's happening right now.

I believe that's why women entrepreneurs are rising up, women's voices are rising up, we're finding that middle because there's a place for both. There's a place for us to be really powerful, really feminine because that's what the world needs. That's the balance right, we've got to hold that space and be confident and not have doubt in our intuition.

Even if we are in the biggest board room and you have an intuitive hit, you share it. Maybe you don't share what it is but you share that idea and that smart because we're savvy and we know things and we've got to stand up for that and do it our way.

I think as we tune into our intuition and we build that muscle even more so, especially in business, that's where our power is and that's really the work I do and that's the work I've been doing on myself. I think that's probably been fine tuning in my podcasts with me as I've been having these different conversations and tuning in myself and then really owning.

“Wow, I do this business strategy, a lot of it is really intuitive and it's just is what it is and I'm really good at it.” I can be in also these really spiritual conversations and I know that feeds into the work that I do. Because we're not one dimensional and I feel strongly that something is shifting and changing.

Like you said the entrepreneurial leap with women right now is so important and we've got to see and understand our value. That we're contributors and that we are having this financial power is also really important right now. Because we're contributors.

We bring people along, we bring women along, we bring men along with us as we grow. We're not isolating to be selfish about it, we want to change the communities and change our families and change our friends. We bring each other along and that's so important right now.

Melinda Wittstock:         Gosh, this is so, so true. If you were starting out again, Amy, like just going back to where you took that leap would you do anything differently? I mean it sounds like you were so open to inspiration, you said yes and then figured it out later. Which is like something all entrepreneurs tend to do right.

You go all in, say yes, okay now I'll figure it out, I'll figure out the how, it's just really knowing the what and knowing the why is kind of enough. Is there anything that you would have done differently?

Amy Schuber:                    I think I would have taken faster action sooner. I sort of took the long road, I might have gotten off the freeway and took the scenic route. I think it was because I wasn't feeling so confident. I knew I was on the right path but I think I was sort of, “Oh, I'm going to take my time.”

I think I would have taken faster action, sooner trusting my intuition even more. With having all these synchronistic things happen, it's like boom, boom, boom, go for it, go for it, go for it. I think I would have done that faster, quicker action.

Because I think I took the long way and I'm not judging it because I probably needed the long way but if anyone is listening and they're thinking I'm having all these hits and I want to do something, I say go for it. The how will show up, it will show up whether you're in fast movement or slow movement, let it be fast.

So you can get to it faster, so you can create faster, so you can make the impact faster. Don't doubt it, I think one of the things that women do more so is we doubt and then we maybe hold on to that doubt for too long. If your idea is a good idea it's a good idea today, it's a good idea a year from now.

You might miss the market because I've witnessed that with some people too that I've worked with and holding space in groups. It's like your time is now. I think right now is the time for women to show up with their brilliant ideas and I think take faster action is something I would have … I would tell myself.

“Hey, girl, I know you're going to wonder around a bit and you are going to take action but just do it faster.”

Melinda Wittstock:         Amy, this is all so inspiring and I can see why you call your podcast, Inspired Conversations.

I'm really intrigued by where you're going next. Your vision for your business and the podcast, what's next in your world?

Amy Schuber:                    That's a good question and you know what's really been needling at me is to be out there speaking and being seen and more visible in the way of really seen and more visible in person. Speaking has been really calling me, I've done a little bit of it but what's next for me personally in my business is think is taking this message to a bigger stage and being onstage.

What that looks like, I don't know but I know that I'm called to be speaking to bigger audience and for my podcast I hope that elevates with me. As I get more exposure and connecting with people to really connect with themselves and follow their intuitive hits. Get an alignment with their vision and mission to do their work in the world.

I hope my podcasting conversations, my inspired conversations come with me and I know there's so many more inspired conversations to have. I don't see an end to my podcasts any time soon because I'm such a curious person, I have so many questions for so many different people and I can't deny the people that keep showing up to want to be in them.

It feels really good to nurture that because I know people are listening and it's impacting them wherever they are and also to say, “Monetize my podcast.” That's something like yeah I'm doing this let it be a powerful force and have a lot of value monetarily as well.

That's in my vision but I think most of all it's being on stage and being seen in a bigger way. Taking myself out of this isolation as we know we can podcast from a closet if we wanted to, right and never see the light of day. Have amazing conversations but not be in that rapport.

I think being in the rapport with everybody was really important for my next step as well.

Melinda Wittstock:         Beautiful, Amy, how can people find you and work with you and also connect with your podcast?

Amy Schuber:                    Absolutely, so you can find me at amyschuber.com and also you can find my podcast anywhere where you listen to podcast, Inspired Conversations with Amy Schuber. Also at inspiredconversations.net where they all live and my social media is also my name, Amy Schuber.

If you want to connect with me or work with me you can always just direct connect with me any where that works for you and we can be in touch and I would love that.

Melinda Wittstock:         Oh, wonderful, thank you so much for putting on your wings and flying with us.

Amy Schuber:                    Oh, thank you so much for having me.

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