315 Rikka Zimmerman: Joy, Peace and Possibility

If you were told you had 8 weeks to live, what would you do? Perhaps it is hard to truly know unless … or until … this hypothetical became your reality. All too often a disease … is simply dis-ease … and as we’ll learn today, healing that inner wound or trauma can heal its physical manifestation.

MELINDA

I’m Melinda Wittstock and today on Wings of Inspired Business we meet an inspiring entrepreneur whose cancer diagnosis turned out to be the miracle that has propelled her to bring love and light to hundreds of thousands of people as a global leader in consciousness.

Rikka Zimmerman is the creator of the Life Transformed Classes and Coaching Certification Program, where her gift is truly to heal by helping people discover self-love. She’s an acclaimed international speaker, a successful author and a singer-songwriter, and her album The Miracle debuted in the top 20 on iTunes.

I’m so excited to share this inspiring conversation with Rikka Zimmerman – and first…

Told she had 8 weeks to live, Rikka turned inward to heal what she calls “swirling judgement and a broken heart. The diagnosis propelled her on a journey to share the insights and epiphanies from her miracle with the world.

Rikka discovered self-love – and with an unbridled love for humanity – she has worked with over 100,000 people to help them step into the very same vibration of joy, peace and possibility she herself radiates. Her advanced tools and processes are known worldwide, and Rikka is on a powerful mission to invite each person on the planet to remember, embrace and BE the magnificent unique expression of their divine essence.

She is the creator of the powerful 4-Day Life Transformed Level 1 & 2 Class, alongside 60 revolutionary private sessions that more than her 120 certified coaches teach all over the world.  Rikka has also collaborated with internationally recognized spiritual teacher Dr. Wayne Dyer, Michael Beckwith, Lynn McTaggert, Gregg Braden, Marci Shimoff, Neale Donald Walsch, Marianne Williamson, John Assaraf, Panache Desai and other conscious leaders. Rikka appears on TV and radio shows internationally as well as featured on the covers of Conscious Journal and Living Now Magazine.

She is also my sister in the Unicorn Club for top entrepreneurs and I’m so excited to share her inspiring wisdom with you today.

So are you ready for Rikka Zimmerman? I am. Let’s fly!

Melinda Wittstock:         Rikka, welcome to WINGS.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Oh, thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.

Melinda Wittstock:         I am so excited to talk with you as well because you're doing such big things in the world, including really understanding a new paradigm of what you call true success in a world that is like evolving and evolving in consciousness. I want you to describe that new paradigm.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Of true success.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, I know a lot of us, especially women entrepreneurs, we've always been forced to move into a man's world. It's like, “Well, what's their definition of success?” Right? Is it that house and the kids, and the white picket fence anymore like that's the motherly version of true success, or is it, “Now, I'm a high-powered executive,” and now it's about money, and it's about power, and it's about … and it's like, “Wait, hold the presses here.” Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         What if our definition of true success actually had nothing to do with the outside? Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         And that everything to do with how we are internally, right? If you have all the money in the world, but you're unhappy, are you successful?

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah. I would argue not at all.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         I mean, all you have to do is listen to deathbed thoughts with people who are extremely wealthy. They're like, “Oh god, I can't take any of this with me. I wish I had more time with my kids, or my friends, or whatever.”

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's so true, and I myself went through an event like that in my life where I was diagnosed with stage four cancer, given eight weeks to live, and it's a massive wake-up call in your life because all of a sudden, you realize how much you've been putting your energy into that doesn't matter.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         It doesn't really matter to you.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yes. It doesn't matter, and yet, we convince ourselves that it does.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Exactly, exactly. This experience with cancer and my experiences in my life have really led me into this internal realization that it's actually about how I feel. It's not actually about how my life is showing up on the outside. Yeah, I have a successful life, and a big house, and I run a seven-figure company, and all that's really great, but my questions are, “Am I fulfilled? Am I happy? Am I free?”

Melinda Wittstock:         Rikka, when you had that diagnosis and how terrifying that must have been, but what was your life like at the moment that you had the diagnosis first of all to set that scene because I want to walk people through what you did in that eight weeks, but what were you doing at that moment that you get the diagnosis?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, at that point, my life looked really great from the outside. I don't know if any of you guys can relate, but I was running at that point like a six-figure company, and I had a boyfriend that loved me, and everything seemed like really good from the outside, but the truth is, on the side, like I was in judgment of myself. I was constantly feeling like I wasn't good enough, or I didn't say the right thing, or maybe people wouldn't like me. I wasn't able to really be in my heart and fully share my heart and my love fully. I wasn't fully fulfilled, I wasn't fully happy, and I wasn't fully free, and I could feel how these limiting beliefs were literally like stopping every area of my life.

Like a lot of us, I went through some traumas as a kid, right? My father passed away when I was 11, which was really tough for me because he was like my soul mate almost, my support, my love. We just loved each other so much. I was daddy's little girl, so when he passed, that was a huge trauma in my life, and it's like I decided that the world is out to get you, and the other shoe is going to drop, and bad things are going to happen. If the worst can happen, then Oh my gosh, you've got to be a control freak to make this thing turn out okay. Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Oh, right. I see because having that, that trauma as a child, sudden loss like sudden change is like, “Oh man, I can't rely or depend on anything.”

Rikka Zimmerman:         On anything, and so these traumas then manifested later on in life is all of these limited beliefs that I really thought were real and true because that was perspective, and that's what I believed, and so whatever beliefs we have become the perspective that we then experience life through. I always thought like, “Okay. The other shoe is going to drop,” and on top of that, my mom and I had a difficult relationship. She was very judgmental, very critical. I didn't feel loved. I didn't feel good enough like I took on all that judgment so I had like swirling judgment and this broken heart, and I was like, “Okay. I'm a mess.” You know?

Melinda Wittstock:         Wow. I'm just going to say that again, swirling judgment and broken heart.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         I mean, how many of us I think, to all the women and men who listen to this podcast, have been there or are there right now that that … especially the judgment piece where we're so hard on ourselves like it's almost like we have an abusive relationship with our business or we're like … or ourselves where that voice of judgment is telling us all the ways that we're not good enough, or we have to be better, or whatever, and it motivates us sometimes to succeed in business until it doesn't.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Good point, because all of that is all not actually true, right? I mean, those limiting beliefs, they aren't real and true like I had always felt like I wasn't good enough like I had lived with that plaguing judgment, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         I wasn't good enough to be a singer. I wasn't good enough to be a successful songwriter. I wasn't good enough to have money. I wasn't good enough to have a boyfriend that love me, but if you fast forward to my life now, I have all those things. Right? I just got nominated for Posi Award for my music.

Melinda Wittstock:         Oh, that's amazing as I have so many questions I want to ask you about your music as well, but congratulations. That's awesome.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Thank you. Thank you. I get to run a seven-figure company, assisting entrepreneurs like you guys to really live their life of true success, get them out of the self-imposed limitations. I have 200 coaches around the world that are teaching the work. I'm in the top 2% women in business. It's like, “Oh my god, all that stuff about me not being good enough has never been true.” I want you guys to consider that for yourselves like what if our … not only our past that has shaped our perception of our beliefs. We could actually change the energy of that, but what if in addition, all those beliefs that created all our life after those traumas and those beliefs? It's actually like we were seeing life through the circus classes.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         We weren't actually experiencing what was real. We were actually in an experience that wasn't real and wasn't true.

Melinda Wittstock:         Sort of… our minds are like projectors.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Exactly, exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:         And so we're seeing and proving almost what we want to, and I guess what we want to is so subconscious because it's like the stuff that happens to us when we're kids mostly, right?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Exactly. That's exactly it, right, and so you find yourself trying to manifest and attain this idea of success, but why are you doing it? Is it because you're not good enough? Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         Well, it's so interesting how many people get there like where they perceive the destination is.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         Then, because they thought, “Oh, I'll be happy once I'm here,” so they get to a seven-figure business, or they get the house, or the … whatever it is. The man. Whatever.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         They think, “Okay. Now, I'm going to be fine,” and then they realize that actually, no. They feel exactly the same, and the same traumas, or demons, or whatever are still there. But then, suddenly, it's a crushing blow, right, to be in that place, and they're like, “Wait a minute. I was like sold a bill of goods,” and it's like … so you see a lot of entrepreneurs arrive there, and then thank God. “There has to be more meaning or there has to be something else to this like what is my why? What is my bigger mission? Why do I do this?”

Rikka Zimmerman:         Absolute, absolutely, and what I found is there are actually three myths that keep people from their life of true success. Right? These three myths that once you expose these myths and once you know that they're there, you're like, “Oh my goodness,” like you can actually stop doing them, and they're things that you think are making you be successful, but they're actually sabotaging your true success.

Melinda Wittstock:         Okay, so what are the three myths? I want to know.

Rikka Zimmerman:         I don't know if we have time to actually go through the entire training, but [crosstalk [spp-timestamp time="00:10:14"].

Melinda Wittstock:         Okay, so the headlines of each of the three myths.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, if I do headline them, you guys will want to know, “Wait a second. I need more training on that. I don't know …”

Melinda Wittstock:         Exactly, which is perfect. They can come work with you.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Exactly, exactly. Yeah. You can actually go to … I have a two-hour master class called Exposing the Top Three Myths that are Sabotaging Your True Success, and it's at rikkasgift.com. It's a gift to the WINGS community, and it will literally take you through what these three myths are and how to stop them from stopping you because all of those limiting beliefs and all those traumas, they're really held in place by these three myths, and if we can get you through like debunk these myths and show you how this isn't working in your life with these exercises we do. I mean, we take two hours to do this, which is why I don't want to do it now because I don't want to rob you guys of what the training actually does because it will change everything.

Melinda Wittstock:         Got it.

Rikka Zimmerman:         You'll be able to easily get out of your box of your current life, what's keeping you small, what's keeping you stuck, what's keeping you at the level you are, and you'll easily be able to graduate into a bigger, greater, more fulfilling, more happy, more joyful life for yourself, which is to me, a life of true success.

Melinda Wittstock:         I love it. That's great. I mean, I think there are a whole bunch of myths and things that we … that we tell ourselves or that someone else has told us or somehow, we've just learnt this about ourselves through the culture that we're in through school or whatever, and I see so many women in particular struggle with undervaluing themselves or not actually knowing their true value, and in business, it's so interesting how that shows up where we underprice ourselves, or we over-deliver, or we just negotiate against ourselves. I see all these patterns. So many of it, just the women that I mentor or work with. But then, also, the successful women that I interview on this show have all struggled with that to some degree or another, that lack of value. Where do you think that comes from and how do you think we get past that?

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's awesome. It's one of the things that we cover in the master class.

Melinda Wittstock:         I bet you do. I bet you do, but I think it's so interesting because I just like … I see this pattern like everywhere I look, and I've seen it in myself as well obviously. Everybody has this to some degree.

Rikka Zimmerman:         To me, the real key about this is that, number one, okay? You need to love yourself more.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Like more, more, more, more, more, more, more until you're actually the number one person in your life that you're here to love like …

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah, so when you love yourself, when you're truly loving yourself and you're out of judgment, like more people are going to love you too, right? It works that way, law of attraction and whatnot. Yeah?

Rikka Zimmerman:         It absolutely works that way, right? When you actually love you, if you look at this, you're like, “Wow, if I …” A great question to actually ask is, “If I was loving myself here, what would I choose?”

Melinda Wittstock:         Right, so like if you really love yourself, you wouldn't chain yourself to a task treadmill all day, for instance.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         You might not be actually enjoying your work, so like … or if you were in a job that you hated, like you'd quit. I mean, you'd … and do something that you really was more in alignment with yourself, or you wouldn't stay in an abusive relationship, or all those sorts of things if you love yourself.

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's exactly it, and that question, “If I was actually loving myself here, what would I choose?” is amazing because you might find, “Oh my gosh, I would structure this business differently.”

Melinda Wittstock:         Oh, I love that. Actually, I want to go there for a moment on that podcast because I see a lot of people create businesses, and the business … They're working for the business.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         The business is not working for them, so the more zeroes they put around it, it's still the same thing. They're still stuck in like want or they're like taking money out of the personal to fund the business or taking money out of the business to fund the personal. They're like constantly in this kind of stress like realm, but it's actually not working for their life.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yes, and what's crazy is … You guys might not know this yet or you may know this, but all of that is built based on these limiting beliefs and is powered by these traumas from childhood. All of the ways in which you have your life either working or not working right now, you might find like, “Wait a second. Why am I running things this way?” and you're going to find a limiting belief that actually originated from childhood. I guarantee it.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Like you're going to be like, “Oh my gosh, like I've been in judgment of myself my whole life trying to earn love because I don't value myself. Well, where did that come from? Was my mom also not valuing herself and judging herself? Ah.” Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah, probably.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Your life and your business right now is literally resonating with that frequency because it's a frequency you believe is real and true, and it's how you see the world right now, but it's … They're circus classes, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         We got to take off those circus classes so that you can actually begin to experience life clearly, experience life from your heart, from your love, and how you do that is not by focusing on the external, but focusing on the internal. Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah.

Rikka Zimmerman:         If I was really loving myself here, what would I choose? How would I enhance my happiness here? How would I enhance my level of freedom? Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         How would I enhance my level of fulfillment? You're going to find that like even just those four questions, they'll allow you the guidance and the awareness about how to restructure everything, but I guarantee that as you ask those questions, you're going to have things come up like your mind is going to tell you, “Well, you can't do it that way. We don't have money for an accountant.” Like it's going to come up with these things, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Which is why I want you guys to experience this training because the training gives you the exercises and tools, so when those three traps come up, you go, “Ah, this was chapter one.”

Melinda Wittstock:         Right. Right, so you know that you're going to put things in front like …

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         There was a really interesting book I read not so long ago. You've probably read it, The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         Really about your upper limit. There are so many things that keep us from stepping into that zone of genius even if it's some old story in the family like, “Uncle Joe wandered away into the Amazon Rainforest and went mad,” or something. It's just the idea of it like if you really go for it, you're going to be penniless and crazy. You know? We have all of these stories that get passed down, right?

Zone of competence where a lot of people are and zone of excellence where you're really comfortable. Everything is going really well, and it's difficult to leave stuff behind when you're in that zone of excellence to really step into genius.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, I think that's where our conversation about the self-value, and if I was really loving myself here, what would I choose?

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         If you are really loving yourself here, would it matter?

Melinda Wittstock:         I agree with you that it really does come down to that, but why is it such a radical difficult concept for people to love themselves?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, if you look at it, all of the beliefs, so the programs, all the ways in which you're limiting yourself, they're all levels of not loving you.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right? They're all really like things we've learned like what's crazy about this, which is so important to realize is like all of these patterns, and limiting beliefs, and whatever, they were handed to us.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         They were part of the automatic patterns. They were the automatic parents … patterns of our parents, the automatic parents … patterns of our grandparents and their grandparents, right? All this information was handed to us automatically. It's important to realize that because if you really look at it, have you actually been the one that has chosen to feel not good enough like, “I know. Based on an infinite menu of anything that I could choose, I think I choose to feel not good enough?” Like did anybody make that choice?

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah, not consciously.

Rikka Zimmerman:         No. Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Because you don't like sign up for that like everybody wants to feel their best, right, and yet …

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, exactly. These patterns, we actually haven't been the one choosing them, and it's important to go, “Wait a second. Hold on. Did this come up automatically, or did I choose it?” which is another incredible tool, right? Like if the question being, if you guys want to write this down like, “If I was choosing from an infinite menu, what would I choose here?” The first part like, “Did I choose this?” and you're like, “Actually, it just came up automatically. Okay, so then what do I choose?” That can be an incredible rewriter of those neural pathways that just like go into the old habit. They go into the automatic. It really can break up that cycle.

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's one of the tools that you can use for everything in addition to the, “If I was really loving myself here, what would I choose?” It bring you into your heart, and then if you go, “Wait,” something came up automatically, and you go, “Hold on. Was that automatic? It was. So then, what do I choose for me?” Give yourself a luxury of your own choice.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right.

Melinda Wittstock:         Absolutely. What do you say to people who don't know? Like when they finally get down to the end of the day, they're so removed from themselves honestly that they don't even know like they're living the thing that they think they should do. They grew up being told what they should do by their parents, by school, by the media. Social media now. Everything, right?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         They've bought into it so much that they've lost themselves, and they actually don't even know what they want.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, and that would be circling back to that question of, “If I was really loving myself here, like what would I choose? What do I enjoy? What's fun for me? Like what brings me that fulfillment? What makes me feel free? What brings me that beautiful happiness?” You want to also make sure that those things are things that aren't outside of you. They are …

Melinda Wittstock:         Right, so it's not like, “Oh, I'll feel better once I have the house, or the Manolo Blahniks, or this, or that.” Right?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Exactly. You want to make them things that are actually about real life.

Melinda Wittstock:         I see so many people going into business unconscious about what it means to have a seven figure business or an eight-figure business, or it's just like, “I want a seven-figure business,” or, “I want an eight-figure business,” but without any idea of what that actually means in reality or assumptions about what it means that might be false assumptions that prevent them from going big.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Absolutely. 100% true.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right? Like you know what's really funny is there's so many women that I talk to, “I don't know. What do you think about this?” who confuse having it all with doing it all. I mean, really, so there's this look of dread where you say, “Hey, play bigger.” They're like, “Uh.”

Rikka Zimmerman:         “Not [crosstalk [spp-timestamp time="00:24:40"]. Ahhh.”

Melinda Wittstock:         “Play bigger” is like … triggers this dread, right, because it's like the assumption is, “Oh my god, to play bigger, it means I have to do more than I'm already doing, and I'm already burning out.” I think that's so sad because it just completely skips over this really word that I love, the word “leverage,” right? It's like … Right? How to live your life in such a way that no, actually, you can be a bit more geometric rather than linear about how you go with your business. You can even be a little bit more quantum. It's just a different way of thinking.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah. It's a different way of thinking, and if you look into it too like our minds have a really great capacity to say, “Oh, you're going to repeat the past,” or, “You can't do this.” Minds are limited in the sense that they're historians, not psychics. Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         They just repeat the past. They're like, “Oh, don't go there. Nothing else, but the past is.” Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         I love that, historians, not psychics. I hear these like sound bytes all over the place here, Rikka. This is awesome.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Where is that level of freedom, and happiness, and fulfillment for you? Well, it's in your heart.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah, yeah.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         No, you're right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         To me, the true success and that scalable business, the one that actually flies and grows, it has to be anchored in the heart. It has to be about your joy and your fulfillment, your happiness. It has to be about that for everyone, every living being on this planet I feel because you can't grow if you're not in the alignment because you can only maintain misalignment for so long before you stress out and have a nervous breakdown like … You know?

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's where you go through all of the laws and all of the fear, and so being able to know your heart, choose from your heart, and live in your heart is quintessential.

Melinda Wittstock:         It truly is. I want to go back to that cancer diagnosis though, and so you have this diagnosis. What do you do in those eight weeks to turn it all around? Just like take me through what that was like, what your process was, and what you learned along the way.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yes. Well, first off, when you get a diagnosis like that, allow yourself to respond however it is you're responding. Right? If you're freaked out, allow yourself to feel the fear. If you're crying every day, like allow yourself to feel that. Sometimes, you go to like, “Oh, just be positive,” and you're like, “There's an elephant of grief on my chest.”

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Like actually know.

Melinda Wittstock:         Feel your feelings. I mean, be honest with yourself about what you're actually feeling. Yeah?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah. You can't feel what you're not willing to … You can't heal what you're not feeling feel.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Okay, so part of the process for me was going to the mirror every day, and looking at myself in the mirror, and getting in touch with the part of myself that was scared, that was hurt, and that was angry. Like I found that within traumas in our lives, there are three energies that are part of that trauma: fear, anger, and hurt. If you go to the mirror and ask yourself like either how you're feeling, or what are you most scared of, what are you most hurt by, or what are you most angry at, it will get to the core of the energy. Okay?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Then, what I did was I allowed that little part of me that was really, really, really scared to feel her feelings, and to tell her story, and to tell me all about it, and every day, it was different. It was like, “Why is this happening? Why does God want to kill me?” to like, “This always happens. My dad left me. God has always left me. Love left me.” Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         It was this core deep pouring-out of all of this information that was really trapped in my system that it was time to actually let go off, right? I would highly, highly, highly recommend doing that. Okay? There's like the baseline of it to be able to allow yourself to expose and release those energies, and then what I would do is I would bring in my divine parents, the love and the light. I would connect to spirit, and then I would tell my little one everything she needed to hear and feel so that she could really let it go and feel safe and loved. Right? It would be like, “Sweetheart, honey,” but you can only do the divine part once you've done the releasing of the other part.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right? So like, “I'm here for you. I love you. I will never leave you.” Okay?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         You're reassuring and you're rebuilding the foundation of your own system.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right? That's really, really important, and through this process, the main point, the main key to all of this that I recognized and realized in this process is I … The only reason why I am here, the only reason why I want to live is to experience love like that's … Nothing else matters. Nothing like no amount of outside success, no amount of money, no amount of anything, except for the love. Like all that mattered to me was choosing to be in love, to experience love, and life became about love. Nothing else mattered. It's the only thing that is.

When you get faced with that, you go, “Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How much did I love? How much did I let myself be loved? How deep into my heart have I gone? Was I holding myself back from really loving? Was I protecting myself?” You realize how deeply all of that is a waste of life.

Melinda Wittstock:         So, so profound. So, here you are. Say, you're at four weeks, six weeks, counting down to these eight weeks, and this process, you're just doing this?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah. Yeah, I'm doing this to change my diet. I was already pretty well and good with my diet, but I just like really got super, super into that, and then I also got an immune therapy trial, right? I did like all kinds of different things. I was like, “Okay. I'm living, so what's up?” Like what am I …

Melinda Wittstock:         Right, so you got like alternative therapies as well. You know? I mean, you really just went for it, right? Yeah.

Rikka Zimmerman:         I went for it, and yeah, and I did an immune therapy, and I feel like with all the emotional work, and all the spiritual work, and all the nutrition, and then the change in my system, right? It's like all of that equated to a very, very successful treatment. The doctor was like … I saw him months ago or whatever, my cancer doctor, because I've been cancer-free for years now, but I still go back to like get checked up and stuff, and he's like, “I don't feel comfortable seeing you anything less than six months. Every six months.”

I'm like, “Still?” Like it's been years, right? He's like, “Rikka, nobody that was as bad as you were actually lived, and I'm the number one melanoma doctor in the world, so like you're a miracle like I don't have anybody to judge you against, so I can't not see you. I don't know what. You're like a … You're a walking, talking miracle. I have to make sure you're still okay.” That being said, like miracles can happen in our lives when we really get into alignment with our hearts, into alignment with why we're truly here, into total devotion to what's real. Like in the end of our lives, we're not going, “Hey, how much money did we have?”

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         We don't care at all. It's like literally like, “How much did I let my husband in?”

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         “How much did I let my heart out? How much did I love my children? Like how close did I let myself get to them? How much did I forgive? Like how much did I share myself with the world? Like how open, and how present, and how loving was I for the stages I got on? How much did I give back? Like how much did I show people to themselves, to the love that they are? Like how much did I do what matters to me?”

Melinda Wittstock:         Right. Yeah, and that's it. At the end of the day, it's so interesting how really elderly people have this insight or people like you who are facing death, right, because it makes you really focus on what's important.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         The sad thing is that people wait for that moment rather than just learning it now while you're healthy just like …

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yes.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right? Like time is the only scarce resource.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         I mean, because everything else is really abundant. Really, depending on your mindset. I mean, there are some people who believe that even time can be made quantum.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         If you're doing the right things with it, if you're in alignment like you're doing what you're meant to do, things seem to flow. I had an interesting experience with this the other week. I don't do tasks. I do intentions, right? I had a list of like these things as if they'd already happened, which I do every morning, and so … but there's usually action items around them, and I was doing everything that was around number two, three, four, five, six, seven, but like not number one.

I was like, “This is really weird,” and two, three, four, five, six were all like really … Like I was in struggle and willfulness around them because they just weren't like working like I thought they would. I thought they were the easy things that would enable me to do one. Then, finally, when I realized this, and I just started doing one, I did one, and two, three, four, five, six just automatically happened. I'm like, “Wow.” I was like … and I remember that day in my meditation thinking, “Universe, just show me, teach me whatever,” and boy, did it.

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's awesome. I mean, if you look at it and you go, “If I was really loving myself here, what's first on my agenda today?”

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah, like that's what you should do, right, because …

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         I hate the word “should,” but you know what I mean? Like it seems that that's the one that would perhaps unlock, make the other ones a lot more easy, or if you're doing the thing that is not the right thing to be doing, you're likely like getting opposition for a reason because the universe is trying to tell you something maybe.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, and I feel like there's really one mission for all of life and all of the universe like it's all doing one thing. It's all trying to bring you home to love.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right? So make it faster for the universe to be able to do that even just by asking if I was really loving myself here with what I do because it's like literally like aligning you and the universe together.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Now, you're both like on the same team [crosstalk] about love like just …

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         If you can harness that one, that one piece, it will allow you to take big quantum leaps because you're no longer trying to do two, three, four, five, six, and seven, which are being a struggle because you haven't yet honored your number one.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right. I totally see that. So we are living in this really interesting time right now, and I'm curious about your perspective because you see some people with fast-growing consciousness. The fact that we can just hop on this podcast, go instantly woo like which happens more, and more, and more on a business podcast, and that everyone who is succeeding in business has an increasingly higher and higher level of consciousness, and that's something that I've seen just in my pattern recognition brain, that seems to be the case. Right?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         You see that on one hand. I'm so optimistic about it. It's so exciting to see so many people getting into higher levels of evolved consciousness. On the other hand though, you see a lot of people actively resisting it to the point where there's just craziness in the world. I don't want to get political or anything, but you know what I mean?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right? Or people who are, and how do you see that in historic times or just in terms of change, in terms of stepping into this enlightenment? What's that resistance all about? I mean, because it's sort of feels like the resistance is louder, and louder, and louder in some quarters as the world gets more and more evolved on balance.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah. Well, the way that I see it is that everything is an opportunity to love ourselves deeper.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right? And to share and be that love even deeper, so even with the … thou name shall not be named, Voldemort, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Even with Voldemort right now … Don't say it three times. No, I'm just kidding, but like even with that presence, it gives America and the world an opportunity to choose love and to hold that space of love even in the presence of that much of the illusion of separation, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         I feel like it's just offering people a choice on a really big magnitude scale, which is if we undo that choice and begin to choose love instead, that's the choice that changes everything for all of humanity, so it's important for humanity to realize like, “Oh, I don't need to fight this. I can still take action, but I'm like Martin Luther King. I'm taking action for love, not against anything else.” Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Right, and that's a beautiful way to say it. I think when we're in that, that kind of flow, really miraculous things happen.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, and if you look at it like imagine that thou who shall not be named is like a two-and-a-half-year-old or a three-year-old.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah, probably about there.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right? If a two-and-a-half-year-old and a three-year-old started acting out in that kind of behavior, as a mother, what would you do?

Melinda Wittstock:         I know whenever my kids had any kind of temper tantrum, or anything like that, I used to actually be pretty calming for them. I mean, just like, “I can see you're going through a little bit of a problem here.” I think you see a lot of mothers like flip out when their kids are doing that, and it makes it even worse because the mom just mirrors the tantrum back, which like just sort of reinforces it, right?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah. Yup.

Melinda Wittstock:         Giving the child permission to feel their feelings, but at the same time, redirecting them elsewhere and telling them that they're still loved.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Totally.

Melinda Wittstock:         That was always my approach. I have pretty well-adjusted kids. I mean, they're teenagers, so they have all the kind of teenage stuff that you'd expect, but so much more conscious, and they're a little woo now.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah.

Melinda Wittstock:         I had my son playing Xbox the other day. I overheard him tell one of his friends that he should really like work on his mindset, which I thought was pretty funny for a 12-and-a-half-year-old boy to say to all his Xbox friends. You know what I mean?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, that's amazing, so like in the presence of those kind of energies, it's like we really have one choice and only one choice, and that is to stand for love.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah. Oh, gosh.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Stand for the love that they are to see that love, to feel that love, to see through the illusion and the behavior that's acting out, and to go, “You know what? I see what you're two and a half, three years old, and I'm going to hold this space of love, and I'm going to love who you really are, which is not this behavior.”

Melinda Wittstock:         Right. You think of someone's true essence if they were evolved. They would be behaving totally different, so there's such a compassion in that.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, exactly, so what would it be like, you guys, to see that in every one who's acting out because they're all just children who want to be loved? There's a lack of …

Melinda Wittstock:         Yeah. You begin to realize, yeah, that everybody is operating at the highest level of their current ability, right?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, exactly.

Melinda Wittstock:         Then, you start to see the world differently. I mean, anyone who's in road rage would not be in road rage if they had that kind of evolved attitude, for instance.

Here's the thing. If the core of them really knew they were loved, there wouldn't be any acting out.

Melinda Wittstock:         Right. Oh my goodness, we're solving all the world's problems here. This is amazing.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Rikka, you are so wise, and I just … applying everything you say to life, but also, to business like how you hire, and how you inspire your team, and how you manage your team. These things are all applicable to that. For anyone who's listening here who's hiring or scaling a business. I mean, how you deal with your vendors, how you treat your customers, like it just … It applies to every single thing you'll ever do in business.

Rikka Zimmerman:         It does because … I mean, everything is this relationship, right? It's all built on relationships, and relationships are all built on love, so one, how deeply and fully are you loving yourself because if you don't have that and you aren't being that, you can't really be it for other people because even if you try to, they can feel that you're lying to your … Like you're not really there and you're trying to get me there. It's like … and they're not there, so nobody gets there, and everybody just fights, or has disagreements, or you end up with an upside-down in contracts or whatever. Like all that stuff happens from not coming from love.

When you come from love, you're going to find that love finds a way for love to take over. Like the things where you go, “Oh, this deal just went south. I'll never talk to this person ever again,” like that's the old world. Well, in this new world, you're really sitting with them, and you're feeling their heart, and you're going, “So, how are you and your husband?” Right? They're like, “We just got at this fight, and we're getting divorce. He doesn't love me.” It's about something else, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         Right, right.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Like really coming from that love, and that's why the first step is, “If I was really loving myself here, what would I choose? How would I treat myself? What would my schedule look like? What would my list of priorities be? How do I honor myself and love myself in this situation? If I was loving myself in the structure of my company, like how do I restructure it in love so that everybody loves themselves, and is happy, and is fulfilled?” Right? As you're doing all of this, you've got to rearrange your inside to then know how to rearrange the way life is showing up on the outside.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yes.

Rikka Zimmerman:         You can't do it the other way around. It won't work. You won't ever be able to fully reach it or attain it. You'll find that the patterns sneak up, you're working too hard, you didn't hire somebody, you don't believe this is possible. The list goes on and on, so it all starts with that internal love.

Melinda Wittstock:         Yes, it does. Rikka, what's next for you? I know you have this amazing business. You help so many people all over the world. You've got a great program. I want to make sure everybody knows about it, and thank you so much too for the generous gift that you mentioned earlier ago on the podcast, but I want to give you a chance to talk about what you're doing right now and where you're taking your business.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Yeah, beautiful. Well, my target for this planet Earth is actually return humanity's consciousness to love.

Melinda Wittstock:         Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Rikka Zimmerman:         I do have a very, very big mission, right?

Melinda Wittstock:         You do, but you know what? I tell people it's just as hard to start a small business as it is to start a big one and a transformational one. It's actually harder to play in he transactional space than it is to play in the transcendental space.

Rikka Zimmerman:         That's beautiful.

Melinda Wittstock:         Play bigger, girl. I think it's great. I mean, really, I love it. I love when people take moon shots and they're doing something really meaningful because it matters.

Rikka Zimmerman:         It does. It does, and it all starts with each and everyone of us like those of you guys that are listening, you're at a different point in your journey or else we wouldn't be having this conversation, right? You're ready for that next level. You're ready for that next step for you. Right? You are ready to really show up in the love that you are, to really show up as yourself, and so immediately, we have this gift for you, which is the Exposing the Top Three Myths that are Sabotaging Your True Success that you think are helping you be successful that are actually keeping you from success, and that's at rikkasgift.com, rikkasgift.com.

Melinda Wittstock:         Great.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Right now, I'm enjoying that and loving that people are raving about it because they're just being set free and stepping in. My target is that all of you guys out there get to live a life where you are truly absolutely fulfilled, absolutely free, and absolutely happy. The currency of life becomes running from that currency of love and no longer the currency of fear.

Melinda Wittstock:         Love it.

Rikka Zimmerman:         That every part of your life emanates this because it started emanating with you from the inside, and now we're changing the world on the outside together.

Melinda Wittstock:         Beautiful. I love it. I love it. So, where do you see yourself in 10 years?

Rikka Zimmerman:         Well, right now, I have around 200 coaches around the world that are teaching these tools, and processes, and material, so it feels like it's going to be an expansion of that like if I can train 10,000 coaches to hold the space of love that I hope for humanity, the amount of change that we can make on the planet is absolutely exponential, right? I'm in that world where I'm like, “I'm going to bring you fully home to you,” and you're going to be able to walk into a room and have the entire room transformed just because you're there.

Melinda Wittstock:         I love it. so Rikka, thank you so much for putting on your wings and inspiring all of us today.

Rikka Zimmerman:         Oh, thank you so much for having me. I just had such a great time with you, and all of you out there, thank you for taking this time and go check out the master class. It is super awesome at rikkasgift.com. It's our gift to you, and may you have your wings, and may you know you can fly.

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